Are Jung’s Archetypes and 70s Music Warnings Still Relevant Today?

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I remain fascinated by Jung’s ideas on archetypes and the collective unconscious—thoughts from our primal ancestors that still influence us today. Listening to old songs like “Crazy Horses” and reading Jung’s Man and His Symbols made me reflect on how little has changed. Are we repeating history, or do we simply ignore what we’ve always known?

As you will all understand by now, I am a huge fan of the old wise psychologists, the men who have also pushed psychiatry so far that we all now have access to better and better psychological care. Sigmund Freud (1856-1939) and Carl Gustav Jung (1875-1961) were at the forefront of that battle, in my opinion. Jung still intrigues me today because of his books about the archetypes. His thoughts about all our collective subconscious, which, according to him, is still nestled under our actual subconscious.

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Do we as humans still use the thoughts of our primal grandparents?

The thoughts from that time when a person could not yet think about his or her own thoughts, could not yet speak, but could only make sounds and chalk drawings on rock walls. The primitive man who already understood that not every content or text was suitable for everyone. After all, in the millennia BC, they already made rock paintings in caves in places that were only accessible to predetermined people. According to Jung, these thoughts still possessed us, and if they found it necessary, they could possess us again immediately.

Do you ever think it was all very different in the past? Wasn't it?

I have now passed the age of sixty, and I also have the thought that it used to be much neater and more cultured. That people in those days had much more respect for each other, did you? Do you ever watch television in horror when the news reports environmental crimes, or when you are overtaken by an idiot in the Netherlands at one hundred kilometres per hour on the highway, where one hundred is allowed? Yes, it still happens to me too, but after having read again in the book "Man and His Symbols" (1964) by Carl Gustav Jung did it. Listening to some older hits "from my time" starts to change my thoughts.

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Did the "Osmond Brothers" from Utah see disaster coming?

Listening to my old favourites, I suddenly discovered a causal connection between my present and past. In the seventies of the last century, as a young boy, I often watched television with my parents, and one of our favourites at that time was the game show: "one of the Eight" , (with Mies Bouwman), a show in which people

with a good memory could win many prizes. Often large foreign artists made their debut on Dutch television in this program. On the night in question, the American Mormon boy group the "Osmond Brothers" from the American state of Utah made their appearance in the television program in question (18-11-1972). They were already "world famous" in America. They sang songs like "Crazy Horses" and "Down by the Lazy River."

 Did you immediately see fast monster cars in front of you?

Already in the seventies, the song "Crazy Horses" was about all those fast, cumbersome, and polluting cars that drove way too fast on all roads. Bob Dylan, according to my information at that time "fairly unknown" artist in Europe at that time, already wrote ballads about the meaning and nonsense of our lives and the abuse of Mother Earth by us as humans. A little later in time (1977), a new band from England (Scotland) suddenly blasted out of the speakers of our television. It was a band that has never let me go until now (2025) with their first hit, "The Sultans of Swing." The song was written and composed by their frontman, the then unknown Mark Knopfler. Knopfler composed more songs for his band, including the song "Once upon a time in the west" on their second album. (1979)

Did you also watch the movie "Once Upon a Time in the West?"

No, the song was not about the above-mentioned film with the famous music of the Italian composer Ennico Morricone (1969), but about the degradation of the world in general. Did you feel addressed at that time? With sentences like "Mothers, let them slaughter your daughters" and "Leaving just enough room to pass" and Sunday drivers never took a chance," and yes, you always said you didn't know anything! It is also a statement known to me! We all know nothing about it again! A funny side effect is perhaps the fact that a young Mark Knopfler helped Bob Dylan breakthrough in Europe. Yes, even then there were the sounds that are heard again. Is it a repetition of moves, or do we as humans not want to know better, or perhaps our collective memory keeps letting us down? Again, even now in 2025 AD, the same things are at play again. Am I getting old? I hope so. Can you? Are you doing enough about it, or had you already forgotten about it? Is it a game that starts repeatedly? is someone in charge, I don't know, you?

Perception, Compassion & Injustice: Lessons from Music & Life.

Perception often shapes injustice and misunderstanding. Songs like Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits, “Hurricane” by Bob Dylan, and “Here’s to You” by Joan Baez challenge how society judge’s others. They highlight how unfair perceptions can lead to wrongful accusations.

Perception, Compassion & Injustice: Lessons from Music & Life.

My mother, with her deep compassion, saw beyond the label of “Crazy Dien”, a woman misunderstood by our village. While others judged her, my mother treated Dien with kindness, embodying the importance of forming our own opinions. Her empathy taught me that true social justice comes from looking beyond surface judgments and understanding people's struggles. Music and personal

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There are many song lyrics that keep pointing out to me how unfair the world can be to some people, or is the world always unfair? My favorite lyrics are "Brothers in arms" a song by the Dire Straits, with Marsame name as the song. Mark Knopfler was inspired for this song by his grandfather, who had fought in the Vietnam War, and wondered aloud the sense and nonsense of this war.

What were the other songs from the past?

This song released in 1985, which opened my budding eyes, contained the following sentences: "There's so many different worlds", so many different suns, and we have just one world, but we live in different worlds. Yes, we are all different, but how many people are aware of this? How many people on earth know the meaning of the word perception? Two other lyrics that touch me again and again are those of the songs: "Hurricane" by Bob Dylan (1975) and "Here's to you", Nicola and Bart, (2009), by Ennio Morricone and Joan Baez. These last two songs are also about unjustly accused people, who in retrospect have been innocent in prison.

What does perception come from?

Perception is the collection of events, and the corresponding upbringing that people have received from their parents. If you must do something as a human being, you often draw on your experiences, or the "wise" words you have heard from others. From these experiences you then form an opinion about something or someone. I remember that we used to have to wear "Sunday" clothes at home on Sundays. My mother wanted other people's perceptions of her children to be positive. Nothing had to show that we were not the richest family in the village, people would think something negative about us, imagine that these people got a negative perception about us!

So, people think differently about the same people?

Yes, your neighbor probably has different thoughts than you do about the greengrocer in your street. Two ladies lived in my native village, one was happily married and had eight living children. The other lady was also "happily" married and had eight children. The ladies were once born in the same city and then moved to the same village later in life. In that second village they lived two streets away from each other, in a working-class neighborhood. While the first lady led a reasonably prosperous life, the second lady often had a hard time in that small village. This second lady was often visited by social work, and the police also regularly came to her door to look. The people of the village called the second lady "Mad Serve"

 Did the two ladies mentioned have contact?

Yes, the two ladies had regular contact. In the village there was a clubhouse where ladies' evenings were regularly held. The ladies played games together and made clothing, such as knitted sweaters. But these ladies had even more in common. As written before, they were born in the same city (Doesburg), in the same year of birth (1916), and they had both lost a child. The second lady from the less social family lived with her family in a house that was declared uninhabitable, the family was poor. At a later point in time, this lady was declared crazy by almost the entire village in which both ladies lived. This was partly due to her own "behavior", but how would you behave if you were vomited out by your entire village?

Was the second lady protected?

The second lady who was seen as antisocial in the perception of many villagers, was even transferred with her family by the local government to another uninhabitable house just outside the village. But the first lady always kept in touch with the second lady, who came from the same hometown. When I spoke to the first lady, she always told me that she knew that the second lady had once grown up in a monastery, and spoke French fluently, and was quite nice, she also visited the second lady regularly. As a young boy, I sometimes wondered why the first lady had such a different opinion about the second lady in the village than the rest of the village?

Who was the first lady?

A book has recently been published about the second lady, which was written by Renie Hesseling with the title "Crazy Dien." Through his research, he found out that "Crazy Dien" had more to offer than most residents of my native village Velp had ever dared to think and thought in their perception. In the book, the author mentions that "Crazy Dien", in the last years of her life, even recited very beautiful poems in the Catholic church of the village. It is a pity that the first lady (My own mother, God rest her soul) died in 1981 at the age of 64, and the second lady left us in 1997. I hope that both ladies (my mother and Dien) embraced each other in heaven in 1997, and that my mother was able to contribute to a better opinion and associated perception about Dien, God have both their souls. I am still so happy that my mother taught me not to always believe everything someone else says!